Revote on the Path Compromise Proposal

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Proposal Type: Bylaw Revision
Opened: 06-Aug-2004 1:00AM EDT
Closing: 08-Aug-2004 1:00AM EDT


In light of the recent objections to the vote and some of the technical aspects surrounding it, a revote is being called.
Jennifer Lewkowicz
AHC2

***Option A***

It is the opinion of Council that the proliferation of characters on Paths
of Enlightenment bothers many of the coordinators and Council Members.
However, no clear agreement as to what to do about the alleged problem can
be civilly agreed upon by Council. To prevent further bickering I now
propose the following compromise solution. There should be something in
this proposal that everyone dislikes, and hopefully the proposal strikes a
balance where it is disliked by everyone equally, thus achieving fairness.
I propose that:

1) All characters on paths of enlightenment not appropriate to their clan
and sect, as set forth in this proposition,
are to be notified for R&U purposes. If five different coordinators, CMs,
or a combination thereof, file objections to any notification, it shall be
placed before Council as an R/U vote. All objections must be filed within
a week to count.

2a) Camarillans on Paths of Enlightenment other than those designated as
appropriate
shall have their personal status capped at 5 and shall have the negative
social trait "inhumane" when their true visage is apparent.

2b) Sabbat on Paths of Enlightenment other than those designated as
appropriate
shall be unable to bid their full status. Instead they shall only be able
to bid three less status than they currently have, but shall always be able
to bid one status as a minimum.

3) Homemade moralities are always inappropriate for the purposes of this
proposal. A homemade Path is one which varies in any way from the Path as
printed in a current MET supplements that shows the Path. Continued use of
a Path from a previous edition of MET shall always be deemed inappropriate.
Unlike all other inappropriate paths, a homemade path must be submitted for
a vote instead of notification before being allowed into play. Whenever
vote is made of a homemade ath, the Hierarchy of Sins for that path shall
be part of the information provided.

4) Note on Roads: Roads count as homemade paths for the purposes of this
proposal.

5) Sect supercedes clan for the purposes of path appropriateness.

6) All characters on Path of Revelations must be notified to the Sabbat
Coordinator's
Office and the R/U Coord.

7) To prevent Paths from being a method for circumventing the morality
system, all chronicles will enforce the idea that unless a Path
specifically condones diablorie, diablorie results in a path check.

8) Appendix of sects/clans and appropriate paths.
The Sabbat:
Bone, Lilith, Harmony, Hive, Blood, Sutekh, Typhon, and Scorched Heart
are to be considered inappropriate for Sabbat characters. Additionally, any
Sabbat on a Path who then switches to humanity is considered inappropriate.

The Camarilla (including Cam Assamites, Setites, etc.):
All paths other than Humanity are considered inappropriate for a Camarilla
character to begin play with. Honorable Accord, and Self-Focus are to be
considered inappropriate for Camarilla character if learned before the
character has been in play for five years. All other Paths are always
inappropriate.

Anarchs:
Beginning play with any path other than Humanity is to be considered
inappropriate for Anarch characters. Additionally any anarch character who
acquires a Path within the first three years of play is also inappropriate.
In all cases, the paths of Bone, Lilith, Harmony, Hive, Blood, Sutekh,
Typhon, and Scorched Heart are always inappropriate for Anarch characters.

Assamites:
-Loyalists
All paths other than Humanity, Path of Blood, and Honorable Accord are to be
considered inappropriate for Loyalist Assamite characters
-Dispossessed
All paths other than Humanity and Honorable Accord are to be considered
inappropriate
for Dispossessed Assamite characters beginning play. Otherwise,
dispossessed have the same restrictions as Anarch characters.

Followers of Set:
-Independent Setites:
All paths other than Sutekh, Typhon, and Humanity, to be considered
inappropriate .
-Independent Warrior Setites
All paths other than Humanity, Honorable Accord, Typhon, and Sutekh are to
be considered inappropriate.
-Children of Damballah and Tlacique:
All paths other than Humanity are to be considered inappropriate .
-Daitya:
All paths other than Sutekh, Typhon, and Humanity are to be considered
inappropriate .
NOTE: Typhon and Sutekh include their variant paths (Set's Vengeance and
Ecstatic
Set). The Paths of the Warrior and of Ecstasy are considered inappropriate
for all
Setites.

Giovanni:
All paths other than Bone, Death and the Soul, and Humanity are to be
considered inappropriate for Giovanni characters

Independent Gangrel:
All paths other than Path of the Beast, Honorable Accord, and Humanity are
to be considered inappropriate for Independent Gangrel characters.

Independent Ravnos:
Other than the fact that Ravnos may begin play with either Paradox or
Humanity, they have the same restrictions as Anarch characters.

______________-
Dan Brackmann
ST and Council Member for Caught in the Eternal Twilight -- St. Louis metro
area
AIM: Sawazar
modan@tenya.net

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***Option B***

According to the bylaws section 2-5 it is the responsibility of genre coordinators
to maintain the consistency and genre appropriateness of the genre resource under
their care. To that end, with the support of the genre coordinators of the Sabbat,
Assamite, Followers of Set, Gangrel, Giovanni, Nosferatu, Toreador, Tremere,
Ventrue, in addition to the R&U Coordinator, I propose the following:

It is our opinion that the proliferation of characters on Paths of Enlightenment is
not being moderated reasonably at a chronicle level. Therefore, we propose that
characters on Paths of Enlightenment not appropriate to their clan or sect should be
held to the following standards:

All characters on paths of enlightenment not appropriate to their clan and sect
are to be considered Rare for R&U purposes

Note on Roads: Characters currently on roads shall be treated as though they were on
their correspondent modern path.

Sect supercedes clan for the purposes of rarity.

All characters on Path of Revelations must be notified to the Sabbat Coordinator's
Office

We believe these changes will preserve the sense of identity between sects and
clans.

The Sabbat:

Bone, Lilith, Harmony, Hive, Blood, Sutekh, Typhon, Self-Focus, and Scorched Heart
are to be considered out of genre for Sabbat characters.

The Camarilla:

All paths other than Humanity are to be considered out of genre for Camarilla
characters.

Anarchs:

All paths other than Humanity are to be considered out of genre for Anarch characters.

Assamites:

-Loyalists

All paths other than Humanity, Path of Blood, and Honorable Accord are to be
considered out of genre for Loyalist Assamite characters

-Dispossessed

All paths other than Humanity and Honorable Accord are to be considered out of genre
for Dispossessed Assamite characters

-Schismatics

All paths other than Humanity are to be considered out of genre for Camarilla
characters.

Followers of Set:

-Camarillan Setites:

All paths other than Humanity are to be considered out of genre for Camarilla
characters.

-Independent Setites:

All paths other than Sutekh, Typhon, and Humanity, to be considered out of genre.

-Independent Warrior Setites

All paths other than Humanity, Honorable Accord, Typhon, and Sutekh

-Children of Damballah and Tlacique:

All paths other than Humanity are to be considered out of genre.

-Daitya:

All paths other than Sutekh, Typhon, and Humanity are to be considered out of genre.

NOTE: Typhon and Sutekh include their variant paths (Set's Vengeance and Ecstatic
Set). The Paths of the Warrior and of Ecstasy are considered out of genre for all
Setites.

Giovanni:

All paths other than Bone, Death and the Soul, and Humanity are to be considered out
of genre for Giovanni characters

Independent Gangrel:

All paths other than Path of the Beast and Humanity are to be considered out of
genre for Independent Gangrel characters.

Independent Ravnos:

All paths other than Paradox and Humanity are to be considered out of genre for
Independent Ravnos characters

Chris Foster
Assistant Head Coordinator
AHCChris@owbn.org

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***Option C***

None of the Above

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