[PROPOSAL] Regulation of Lucinde's Revenge for Non-Ventrue

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Proposal Type: Bylaw Revision
Opened: 24-May-2016 12:55AM EDT
Closing: 24-May-2016 1:00AM EDT

In accordance with the OWbN Coordinator Bylaws, Section 3.C.
iii. Genre Coordinators must pass before Council any plot, R&U bylaw revision, R&U named characters, territory requests, in character enforced policy, or in character binding edict they wish to use which they can reasonably expect to affect multiple chronicles and these proposals need not be seconded, but go immediately into discussion.
1. If no opposition is voiced during the week of discussion, the proposal is considered passed and enforceable. Once passed these are considered binding to all chronicles and a chronicles refusal to adhere is grounds for OWbN disciplinary measures. Opposition must be in regards to the content of the proposal and must give those reasons why the objection is voiced. This is to allow Coordinator's the opportunity to respond and/or make changes/remove the proposal and its contents.
The Ventrue Coordinator proposes the regulation of the Combination Discipline: "Lucinde's Revenge" from the V20 Book "Dread Names - The Red List, p.100." This power, as printed, is as follows:
Lucinde’s Revenge (Dominate 4, Fortitude 4)
For centuries, Lucinde’s Revenge was known only to the Ventrue. Recently, a new iteration of this power has become widely taught among the Alastors per the wishes of Justicar and Red Alastor, Lucinde, who wants those hunting the Red List prepared to resist the manipulative tactics and Disciplines the Anathema use, one in particular. This power protects against Presence, keeping that Discipline’s more subtle effects at bay.
System: Lucinde’s Revenge protects against all Presence based on Generation in a similar way that Dominate functions. Only a Kindred of lower Generation than the user of Denial can affect that Kindred with Presence. Thus a Ninth Generation Kindred would be unaffected by a Twelfth Generation Kindred attempting to use Dread Gaze on her. 
It costs 25 experience points to learn this power.
This power was created by Lucinde, which means characters in OWbN who have learned it - and especially non-Ventrue - should be able to trace the learning back to Lucinde.
I have also added the following write-up to the Non-Binding Ventrue Genre Document:
Lucinde’s Revenge (Dominate 4, Fortitude 4, 13 XP) - V20: Dread Names - The Red List, p.100
No conversion necessary, use as printed.
*This power requires Coord-Approval when learned by non-Ventrue. [Character Bylaws, 10.l.viii.19]
The item in BOLD  will be ADDED to the OWbN Character Bylaws, Section 10.l.viii.19.:
19. Non-Ventrue with Ventrue Combination Disciplines - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Ventrue
g. Lucinde's Revenge
There will be no Grandfathering with this proposal.
My reasoning is, since this power was created by Justicar Lucinde, and the book was published after I was already serving as Ventrue Coordinator, anyone who has learned this power should have collaborated with the Ventrue Coordinator to figure out how they might have learned the power from Lucinde (or someone she has taught). If the case is appropriate, I will approve the learning.
Thank you,
- Brian Orlando
  Ventrue Coordinator

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